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Thistle Rigging

 

Rigging your boat is an individual undertaking.  Everyone has preferences about where the equipment goes and what type of mechanical advantage they require.  Some items are limited by class rules, so check the rules on the class association website before you start.

 

 

Key Items

The key items to keep in mind when rigging are:

 

  1. You must be able to hold the line strongly.  Use lines large enough to grip without slipping.  Choose your line type for gripping surface.  Years ago, to save weight, sailors used the smallest lines available.  Today you can get lines that are made of high-tech lightweight fibers.  Use something you can hold!

 

  1. You need enough mechanical advantage.  The easier it is to adjust something, the more likely you are to use the adjustment.  Class rules limit the advantage you can use on some systems, so check the rules on the class association website before you start.

 

  1. Mount your items securely.  Use through-bolts instead of screws wherever possible.  Loads can be heavy.  Make sure the hardware can hold.  The Harken page has good information on designing systems around the load.

 

  1. Sailing hardware can get very expensive – recycle parts whenever possible.  Of course, you do not want to use a recycled part that barely works.  If the system doesn’t work, you won’t be able to use it!

 

 

Systems

The Thistle has comprehensive control systems, but the class has resisted putting on very complicated systems that raise the cost of rigging your boat.  There are no heavy, complex systems such as mast rams, adjustable shrouds, spinnaker launcher tubes, etc.  The boat has been kept clean and simple, which equates to crew-friendly while racing.  The main control systems on a Thistle are listed below:

 

Mainsail

Mainsheet – controls the position of the boom and the mainsail leech tension.  Used in conjunction with the vang and traveler to position the main for best airflow and speed.  You can put as much purchase at the end of the boom as you like (consistent with pulling in the line quickly), but the bitter end going forward is only allowed to be a single line at mid-boom, going through a single block on the centerboard.  All your advantage must be at the end of the boom, between the boom end and the traveler.

 

Main Halyard – typically a rope-to-wire arrangement that cleats on the side of the mast with a ball-and-hook arrangement.  Sometimes replaced with all-line systems.  Hauls up the mainsail and some adjustability should be left here to control luff tension on the mainsail in differing wind strengths.

 

Cunningham – The Cunningham is used to pull the draft in the mainsail forward.  No purchase limitations in the rules. 

 

Jib

Jib Sheets – control the trim of the jib.  These run INSIDE the shrouds to a turning block and cleat arrangement on the thwart.  Some people experiment with extra purchase systems on the sheets.  This is a highly loaded system – bolt it through the thwarts.

 

Jib Halyard – used to tension the jib luff.  Originally a wire-to-rope system with a ball that hooked into a hook on a tensioner slide.   The tensioner is limited to a 4:1 purchase.  Commonly used now with all line running to a multiple block tensioner.

 

Barberhauler (optional) – used to control jib sheeting angles in differing wind strengths.  Many Thistlers use adjustable tracks for their jib sheet blocks.

 

Spinnaker

Spinnaker Sheets – used to control the trim of the spinnaker and the pole.

 

Spinnaker Halyard – hauls the spinnaker up.  Some Thistlers use a reverse purchase arrangement to haul the sail up more quickly when rounding marks.

 

Spinnaker Pole Lift (Topping Lift) – controls the height of the pole.

 

Spinnaker Twings – used like barberhaulers to control the angle of the sheets.  Some use them to choke the kite during gybes for quicker gybes.

 

Other

Boom Vang – used to control the vertical position of the boom.  Used in conjunction with the traveler and mainsheet to let the boom swing off centerline without raising and reducing leech tension.

 

Traveler – controls the side-to-side position of the boom.  Can be used to let the boom out for proper trim while maintaining leech tension with the vang and/or the mainsheet.

 

Centerboard Hoist – positions the centerboard up or down to control boat heel and limit weather helm.  Use enough purchase here- the board is heavy (75 pounds), and this control is adjusted more often than you would think.

 

Hiking Straps – offer a place to hook your feet while hiking over the side – adjustability is a good thing to build in here…

 

 

Links to Rigging Sites

 

Thistle Class Association

Contains rules and measurements for all systems.  YOU MUST COMPLY WITH THESE RULES TO HAVE A LEGAL THISTLE FOR CLASS RACING.  Use the “Green Book” Link to get to the rules and specifications.

 

Harken Thistle Site

This site showed rigging diagrams for various boats including the Thistle.  The page has disappeared, but it is unclear if this situation is permanent.  If so, I will post a scanned copy of the page.

 

Thistle 1987 – Schock Therapy

Story of the restoration of my Thistle.  Updated regularly.  Contains links to photos.

 

Thistle 1239 - Coucheuse

Restoration of Texas woodie.  Contains excellent photos of restoration and rigging on older boat.

 

Chip's Thistle Project

Beginning restoration of older Thistle.  Page is currently inactive.

 

Thistle 2291

Restoration of fiberglass Thistle with great rigging information and photos.

 

C.D. Beckwith's Thistle "Sassy"

Charlie’s website of his restoration.  Great descriptions of rigging systems.  Some photos, but not yet complete.  Charlie also makes fiberglass-reinforced wooden booms for nominal cost.  His workmanship appears to be outstanding.  E-mail link to him on the page if you are interested.  He has photos of the booms to email.

 

Thistle3748 - Rubidium (for sale)
Thistle 1313 - Black Cloud

 

 

Another Texas boat.  This was the Delta District champion.  Howie has sold it – contains great photos of rigging ideas.

1959 Douglass & McCloud woodie restored to perfection.  Great photos.

Dan Winchester's page

The Thistle Class standard  Excellent diagrams of rigging ideas, trailer construction, rail repair, and more.  Start here for ideas for your boat.

 

International 5o5 Site

The 5o5 site is dedicated to a very high performance boat.  It has page after page after page of rigging information which might be helpful to you.  The site is extensive – oone of the best and most informative I have seen.

 

Flying Scot Page

The Flying Scot was designed by Sandy Douglass – father of the Thistle.  There are some good rigging ideas on their page.

 

Highlander page

Mr. Douglass was also instrumental in the design of the Highlander.  There are good rigging ideas on this site that might be transferable also.

 

 

 

 

 

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